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Simple Explanation Of Hegelian Dialectic Method

Posted by Tanasije Gjorgoski on October 29, 2006

Hegel is considered as one of the hardest philosophers to read, and it is not rare case for people to say that this is not because what Hegel said is hard to understand or because his writing was bad, but that actually what Hegel wrote was nonsense.
It is easy really to point to some quotes from his works taken out of the context, and say… Look, the person who said this, was surely talking nonsense. After all, would any sensible person say such thing as “Pure Being and pure nothing, are therefore, the same” or that “They are (i.e. being and nothing) in this unity (i.e. becoming) but only as vanishing, sublated moments. They sink from their initially imagined self-subsistence to the status of moments, which are still distinct but at the same time are sublated”? Those two are quotes taken from the first part of Hegel’s Science of Logic.  How can one argue that two different things which every person knows are different, are in fact same? And what is that talk about “sublating”?

Here, I will give something that might not be named an example, but maybe better named an analogy of the dialectic method of Hegel.

The analogy would work with the notions of “Left” and “Right”.
Let’s analyze those notions as abstractions. When we think of Left as something immediate (as Hegel uses the term), it marks let’s say half of the space (or line which is in front of us, etc..), and Right as something immediate marks the other half of the space (or line, or whatever). But if we take now those half-spaces, or half-lines by themselves, or if we limit our thinking just to those abstractions (this is important), we can figure out that there is ideal symmetry between them.  There is nothing that distinguishes them internally. The half-space that we named Left can be Right, and the half-space that we named Right can be also Left.

It is in this abstract symmetry where different notions become equal. (or more general produce a contradiction of some kind)

But for sure Left and Right as notions are not equal, they have different meaning. So, we are brought to a contradiction, they are different, but also they are equal. This is the important moment in the dialectical movement. Two different abstract notions are taken, and it is shown how in their abstract symmetry they are equal. However pointing to this contradiction is not an end in itself. Hegel is not defending contradictions, the next step he takes in this dialectical movement is to resolve the contradiction.

The resolution is based on really simple principle – if the distinction between two universals is not in them taken alone, then their difference is something outside of them.

So, let’s return to the notions of Right and Left. We might say that what is determined as Left and what is determined as Right depends on the position of the observer. But if we try to specify the observer by a point, it won’t make much difference. Still there is the symmetry between Right and Left. We need vertical observer. But even if we imagine observer as short vertical line on the edge between Left and Right, still there is perfect symmetry. Even if we name one of the sides of the observer-line as Top, and the other as Bottom, still there is perfect symmetry between Right and Left. It is when additionally to Top/Bottom we also have observer with Front/Back where the symmetry is broken.

So, we come to conclusion that the Left/Right distinction starts to make sense only in the whole new notion of Vertical-Observer- With-Bottom-and-Top -and-Front-and-Back-Sides- Who-Is-Existing-In-Space. OK, this is one silly named universal, but we can understand what Hegel means by “sublated” now. Hegel says as explanation for this term:

To sublate has a twofold meaning in the language: on the one hand it means to preserve, to maintain, and equally it also means to cause to cease, to put an end to. Even ‘to preserve’ includes a negative elements, namely, that something is removed from its influences, in order to preserve it. Thus what is sublated is at the same time preserved; it has only lost its immediacy but is not on that account annihilated.

So, in this case Left and Right are sublated. “They sink from their initially imagined self-subsistence to the status of moments” of the new wealthier silly-named concept.

So, what Hegel tries to do through this method, is to show a structure of universals, in which the “lower” ones are sublated in the higher and richer ones, arguing that former have their truth and meaning only as moments in the later. One can easily see that Hegelian philosophy is holistic, and that it denies that abstract universals have truth in themselves isolated from the whole. He tries to show that each of those concepts taken as having determinate meaning in itself necessarily will produce contradictions.

16 Responses to “Simple Explanation Of Hegelian Dialectic Method”

  1. Marcus said

    Wwwwwwhhhhaaat?

  2. Ummm… Marcus, can you try with more words?

  3. Peter said

    It’s not just ordinary people who think Hegel is talking crazy, professional philosophers do too. For example Caird writes “But the height of audacity in serving up pure nonsense, in stringing together senseless and extravegant mazes of words, such as had previously known only in madhouses, was finally reached in Hegel, and became the instrument of the most bare-faced general mystification that has ever taken place, with a result which will appear fabulous to prosterity, and will remain as a monument to German stupidity.”

  4. Hi Peter, I thought that Schopenhauer said something very simmilar. But I might be wrong.

  5. Peter said

    He probably did, given that he was also a critic of Hegel, it was simply the first quote that came to hand.

  6. Dave M said

    Thank you, this seems about right. A few questions:

    1. Where’s that definition of Aufheben (”to sublate”) from? The beginning of the Logic?
    2. What’s a “moment”? (I know what I *want* it to mean, but …).
    3. What’s the difference between “abstract negation” and “determinate negation” (and which one is the “negative of the negative”? I keep getting them mixed up)?
    4. Do you think this general idea – that of overcoming conceptual dualisms via Aufhebung – can be detached (ie so that we can use it) from the rest of the Hegelian system (which I can’t use)?

  7. Hi Dave, thanks for the questions.
    1. Yes, the quote is from Hegel’s Logic, from the part about Becoming
    2. Hegel names both of sublated notions to be moments of the new wealthier notion. For him the new notion is “more true” then those sublated notions(moments). I tend to think of them as abstractions from that new notion.
    3. As for his usage of concrete vs. abstract negation, I think “concrete negation (of X)” would be not merely dismissing of the X (which would be abstract negation, where there would be no difference in result when one dismisses e.g. X, Y or Z), but where the result is a new notion, which is negation of X, but also contains it, as a moment.
    4. I think that the general idea can be used unconnected to other parts of Hegel’s system, and I think I kind of tend to use it that way. As I don’t understand lot of things about Hegel’s system (in part I use the writing on this blog as a way to better that understanding,as writing makes you consider lot of things which one might just glance over when reading), but those ideas that I do, seem to me very nice, and usable by themselves. For example in earlier posts (here and here) I wrote about how number as aggregate can be better seen as number as ratio, and that way of looking presents not just comprehensible account of things like 1=0.99(9), but also presents good base of relating math to physical world as measurements take form of ratios.

    BTW, I’m puzzled about two things you said:
    1.You said “I know what I want them to mean” for moments. Can you say more?
    2.You said that there is parts that you can’t use. Can you say more about this also?

  8. Dave M said

    I should probably blog about my attitude toward Hegel (as you say, blogging on something helps one fix one’s views about things), rather than dropping a big treatise in your comment box. But I’ll give short answers to your questions (seeing as you answered mine, it’s the least I can do).

    I’ll start with the second one. I’m looking for a good way to explain how to overcome the dualism of subject and object (as manifested in contemporary realism and anti-realism). Hegel seems concerned with the same issue, and Hegelian “sublation” looks like it might help. But in general Hegel [n.b. as should be obvious, I don't know that much about him] seems too 1) obsessively systematic (deriving the whole business a priori from the very idea of pure indeterminate Being; no thanks), and 2) teleological (though I’m less sure about this one). In any case I’m not interested in defending Hegel (or Brandom!) against idealist or Romantic criticism, just to get a cool anti-dualist gadget I might be able to get somewhere else. Not if all that other stuff comes with it.

    As for the first question, I simply meant that I thought I knew what “moment” means, and if it means that, great, but if it means something else, then I might just be back at square one (in which case the heck with it). But what you say sounds like what I was thinking (except I might prefer to speak of “aspects” rather than “abstractions” – but that may just be the Wittgensteinian in me talking).

  9. Dave,

    Yes, one of the central ideas of Hegel’s system is removing the dichotomy between subject and object, or as I guess Hegel would prefer, between notion and the thing.
    However, the result is in the form of Absolute Idealism, where there is nothing else but notion(s), or as much there are things, those are not distinguished from their notions.

    BTW, starting from the indeterminate Being, as I understand it, is important in his system partly because of that. Namely because the dialectics is started with Being as most abstract (and empty) notion, it is sublated and appears as moment in all the “higher” notions, making them more then mere subjective thoughts.
    So to say, by including the Being, in all those, Hegel tries to remove the distinction between what is, and what is thought.

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  11. katie said

    I wish I actually understood philosphy, maybe that’s because I’m too young to comprehend things about the world, like God, and Nature, etc, the metaphysical world and reality, alas, I don’t iknow

  12. Riley said

    I’m 30 and, re-reading the Phenomenology, I’m coming to the realization that I’m still too young to get Hegel. :(

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  14. Jamaal Rasheede said

    Hegel used the German word Geist (Spirit or Reason) to refer to the world considered as a thinking thing. The history of the world is the story of Geist developing self-consciousness. It is the story of reason (basically, the minds of human beings) coming to reason (discovering truths, becoming more rational and reasonable in our beliefs and our behavior). It is the story of scientific and political progress. This progress is not smooth but dialectical. That is to say, it moves like a productive philosophical dialogue in which person A states some partial truth, person B states the opposite (which is also partly true), and then the truth (combining elements of both ideas) comes out. There is a kind of logical inevitability about this progress, but we see it only in retrospect. The job of philosophy is to describe the direction of movement that is already underway.

  15. gautam said

    Too hard to understand!!!!!
    Can u explain it more in a laymans language.
    Just like what it is given in books.

  16. Kento said

    @Jamaal Rasheede, that actually makes sense.

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